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	<title>Comments on: How to reset ORABPEL, ORAESB password in SOA Suite 10.1.3.X</title>
	<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 00:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Atul Kumar</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-108083</link>
		<dc:creator>Atul Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ram,
 You will have to upgrade your existing middle tier as well to SOA 10.1.3.5.0 to match with database repository version</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ram,<br />
 You will have to upgrade your existing middle tier as well to SOA 10.1.3.5.0 to match with database repository version</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-107963</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 12:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atul,

while working, i realized one more issue..

The existing SOA Production server is of version 10.1.3.1.0 and SOA reposioty on the database is also the same version.

In new box, i want to patch SOA to 10.1.3.5.0 and as per the installation instructions, i need to run sql scripts to update orabpel,oraesb schema's.

If that is the case, is my existing server with 10.1.3.1.0 version continue to work new set of updated schema's as i am planning to use same repository for both servers?


Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Ram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atul,</p>
<p>while working, i realized one more issue..</p>
<p>The existing SOA Production server is of version 10.1.3.1.0 and SOA reposioty on the database is also the same version.</p>
<p>In new box, i want to patch SOA to 10.1.3.5.0 and as per the installation instructions, i need to run sql scripts to update orabpel,oraesb schema&#8217;s.</p>
<p>If that is the case, is my existing server with 10.1.3.1.0 version continue to work new set of updated schema&#8217;s as i am planning to use same repository for both servers?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Ram</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-107945</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks a lot atul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks a lot atul</p>
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		<title>By: Atul Kumar</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-107877</link>
		<dc:creator>Atul Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 16:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ram,

Q. I want to use the same database which i already have. do i need to run irca.sh again? does it overwrite the existing schemas?

A. SOA 10.1.3X expects schema orabpel &#38; orawsm to store BPEL process state. You already have this schema in database. Now if you point another middle tier to same database schema then you will see bpel processes of first soa install and both soa install will share same repository.
 If you try to run again irca.sh my guess is that it will fail with error that schema already available. 

Q. How does this work? these two soa server use the same set of schema’s as they are in sys user? will it cause any issue to the existing production?

Schemas are not in sys , soa repository is in schema orabpel and sys is just medium to connect to orabpel schema. If you configure second middle tier to existing schema (orabpel) they will become kind of member of cluster.

If you wish to create two separate soa environment then soa 10.1.3.X provide concept of domain (this is different from weblogic domain) so see if SOA domain is sufficient for your requirement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ram,</p>
<p>Q. I want to use the same database which i already have. do i need to run irca.sh again? does it overwrite the existing schemas?</p>
<p>A. SOA 10.1.3X expects schema orabpel &amp; orawsm to store BPEL process state. You already have this schema in database. Now if you point another middle tier to same database schema then you will see bpel processes of first soa install and both soa install will share same repository.<br />
 If you try to run again irca.sh my guess is that it will fail with error that schema already available. </p>
<p>Q. How does this work? these two soa server use the same set of schema’s as they are in sys user? will it cause any issue to the existing production?</p>
<p>Schemas are not in sys , soa repository is in schema orabpel and sys is just medium to connect to orabpel schema. If you configure second middle tier to existing schema (orabpel) they will become kind of member of cluster.</p>
<p>If you wish to create two separate soa environment then soa 10.1.3.X provide concept of domain (this is different from weblogic domain) so see if SOA domain is sufficient for your requirement</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-107831</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atul,

Thank you for the answer.

i will rephrase my question to get the details i need..

I have one SOA installation in one server with oracle Database sitting in a different box.

I want to build one more new SOA server, but i want to use the same database which i already have. do i need to run irca.sh again? does it overwrite the existing schemas?

how does this work? these two soa server use the same set of schema's as they are in sys user? will it cause any issue to the existing production?

hope this time i am clear.

Thanks again.

Regards,
Ram</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atul,</p>
<p>Thank you for the answer.</p>
<p>i will rephrase my question to get the details i need..</p>
<p>I have one SOA installation in one server with oracle Database sitting in a different box.</p>
<p>I want to build one more new SOA server, but i want to use the same database which i already have. do i need to run irca.sh again? does it overwrite the existing schemas?</p>
<p>how does this work? these two soa server use the same set of schema&#8217;s as they are in sys user? will it cause any issue to the existing production?</p>
<p>hope this time i am clear.</p>
<p>Thanks again.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Ram</p>
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		<title>By: Atul Kumar</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-107787</link>
		<dc:creator>Atul Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 19:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ram,
 Application uses hard coded orabpel, oraesb, orawsm account so yes If you want dedicated SOA instance then they have to be in separate dedicated database (Though you can use same database binaries and simply create another database using dbca : data base creation assistant).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ram,<br />
 Application uses hard coded orabpel, oraesb, orawsm account so yes If you want dedicated SOA instance then they have to be in separate dedicated database (Though you can use same database binaries and simply create another database using dbca : data base creation assistant).</p>
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		<title>By: Ram</title>
		<link>http://onlineappsdba.com/index.php/2009/04/14/how-to-reset-orabpel-oraesb-password-in-soa-suite-1013x/#comment-107763</link>
		<dc:creator>Ram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>H atul,

I need a help. we already have soa suite 10.1.3.1.0 and trying to setup one more server.

i already have a database and installed orabpel schemas, can i use the same for the new soa installation? do i need to have a dedicated database for every installation since it is using SYS user?

your input will be great help to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H atul,</p>
<p>I need a help. we already have soa suite 10.1.3.1.0 and trying to setup one more server.</p>
<p>i already have a database and installed orabpel schemas, can i use the same for the new soa installation? do i need to have a dedicated database for every installation since it is using SYS user?</p>
<p>your input will be great help to me.</p>
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		<title>By: debashis</title>
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		<dc:creator>debashis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 07:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks
This was great help!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks<br />
This was great help!!</p>
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